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					<description><![CDATA[Off to Forest Grove, Oregon to read tomorrow for the MFA program (and catch up with friends as well!) 2:45 in Marsh Hall for you Portland-ites who want to make the trip out to Pacific U. Jeffery Bahr pointed out how Poets &#038; Writers has snubbed me by having an article on literary writers who [&#8230;]]]></description>
										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off to Forest Grove, Oregon to read tomorrow for the MFA program (and catch up with friends as well!) 2:45 in Marsh Hall for you Portland-ites who want to make the trip out to Pacific U.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whimsyspeaks.com/2007/06/missing_villainess.html"><strong>Jeffery Bahr</strong></a> pointed out how Poets &#038; Writers has snubbed me by having <a href="http://www.pw.org/mag/0707/newsweinman.htm">an article on literary writers who write about superheroes</a>&#8230;but not a mention of &#8220;<a href="https://webbish6.com/poetry/femalesuperheroes.htm">Female Comic Book Superheroes</a>&#8221; or &#8220;<a href="https://webbish6.com/poetry/villainess.htm">Becoming the Villainess</a>?&#8221; Honestly&#8230;<br />Feel free to start a letter-writing campaign on my behalf here (<a href="mailto:editor@pw.org">editor@pw.org</a>) &#8211; let P&#038;W know your outrage <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f642.png" alt="🙂" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
<p>Read Tony Hoagland&#8217;s new book of poetry essays, and really enjoyed his essay &#8220;Negative Capability: How to Talk Mean and Influence People.&#8221; I&#8217;m afraid I thoroughly agree with his assessment that meanness can elevate poetry and make it more incisive, witty, and less boring. Does this mean I&#8217;m a bad person? I was thinking about my favorite writers, and I&#8217;m afraid they all share a bit of this &#8220;mean&#8221; quality..all of Gluck, a lot of Atwood, Osamu Dazai, even that poem I love by Louis Simpson, &#8220;My Father in the Night Commanding No.&#8221; Eliot, HD, E.D.&#8217;s &#8220;Victory Comes Late,&#8221; ee cummings&#8217; &#8220;Anyone Lived in a Pretty How Town,&#8221; Plath&#8217;s sense of humor, Haruki Murakami, Thomas Hardy, Ovid&#8230;Not a cuddly one in the bunch.</p>
<p>A belated thank-you to <a href="http://paperworlds.blogspot.com/2007/06/thinking-blogger-awards.html#links">Kelli for calling this a thinking-blog</a>. They may already have been nominated, but I nominate <a href="http://www.whimsyspeaks.com/">Jeffery Bahr </a>(How else would I know what&#8217;s in Harper&#8217;s every month?) and <a href="http://looktouch.blogspot.com/">Jessica Smith</a> (always entertaining) and <a href="http://ivyai.blogspot.com/">Ivy Alvarez </a>and <a href="http://kristybowen.blogspot.com/">Kristy Bowen </a>(both impressive thinkers) for these Thinking Blogger awards. Oh, and <a href="http://www.pantoum.org/entries/2007/06/18.html">Mary Agner</a>, for her great reviews of fiction and biographies and other books I might never read without her. <a href="http://www.thethinkingblog.com/2007/02/thinking-blogger-awards_11.html">Here&#8217;s the origin of the meme.</a></p>
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