MFA vs NYC Part I – a Personal Response and Review
- At April 01, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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I have to admit that I started reading this book, published by n+1 Magazine, thinking I would hate it (though I’ve always liked n+1). First of all, I believe that “NYC vs MFA” is a false binary – there is no either, or, sometimes there’s both, or neither, or something in addition to…you get the point. And some of the essays were annoyingly out of touch and grating (um, people complaining about how fast they spent their quarter-of-a-million book advances…really?) but some I had some surprising “I have a lot in common with them” or “I really like these people” moments as well. The other response I’ll talk about in Part II of this post, but it has something to do with the “what else can I do?” question in regards to marketing books.
First of all, Tom Spanbauer is an amazing human, and all his little “in between” pieces (also in the “in-betweens” are writers like Meghan O’Rourke and Sloane Crosley) are worth reading and paying attention to – in some cases, more than the essays. There was also a shoutout from an Iraq war vet, Matthew Hefti, to the kind of online, friendly-to-folks-in-the-military program I taught in, National University’s MFA program, because – hey, getting an MFA from remote is hard, getting it while fighting in another country is even harder. Respect.
Eric Bennett’s “The Pyramid Scheme” contained some subject matter I’m very interested in – a bit of investigation of the Cold War era of CIA support for places like the Iowa Workshop, Paris Review, The Kenyon Review, and others. I wanted to immediately have coffee with him and then read his thesis. (Is this the equivalent of an intellectual crush? An intellectual crush, then.)
Melissa Flashman’s essay, “How to Be Popular,” contained the tidbit that she had worked at Luminant briefly during the dot-com boom. Me too, I thought! I wondered if I actually worked with her? Then she became a cool-spotter with trends and then did the same with books. Much hipper than my “became a middle manager at some large software company and then quit and became a poet” trajectory. The essay is fun to read, even if you haven’t worked at Luminant or been a trend-spotter.
“Nine Lives” by Lynne Martin was one of my favorite essays, because it was so fascinating to read about the work that is involved in publicizing books. “Etsy that shit out,” she explains, because most of the people getting the publicity packets are apparently 21-year-old girls. Message received. Hey, I’m still a 12-year-old girl at heart – I like stickers and clever packaging/stationary and pens that smell like cupcakes, so, I think “Etsy that shit out” is a good strategy. (Separately, but relatedly, there is another essay about a writer who, during her spare moments of boredom during her MFA, put some cards she had made in her downtime up on Etsy and got an order of 16,000 from Anthropologie. So, you know, that’s how she’s paying her student loans.)
Also interesting: a surprisingly charming and self-deprecating interview with Paris Review editor Lorin Stein, and the essay by Alexander Chee. On the ick factor side: a surprisingly “I’m okay with sexual harassment in the classroom” sort of essay on Gordon Lish (balanced by Tom Spanbauer’s dry remarks right before it) which made me remember why you should never, ever sleep with power-drunk editors, publishers, or professors, no matter what they promise you, because they are creepy, creepy slimebags, and besides, what would your mother think? Or Margaret Atwood? Any time you’re tempted to sleep with anyone to get published, ladies, just think of Margaret Atwood, shaking her head at you sadly. That’s the crap that made me not want to get an MFA in the first place. (A good commentary on that specific essay here on Bookriot: http://bookriot.com/2014/03/13/seduction-mfa-gordon-lish/) Also, the word “seduction” used in the essay’s title to reference what this creepy old dude was doing with his students makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
So, the overall message on this book from me is: read it, not just because you’re irritated by all the chatter surrounding the book, but because some of the essays are lovely writing by people you’d probably enjoy talking with, who are interesting and who know the workings of the “book biz.” A pet peeve, since this book is all by and about fiction writers, was how one essayist said the “poets all go to Phd programs” and just assumed that the only people doing MFAs were fiction writers, not poets or creative-non-fic. So, that seemed a little like, did you ignore half of your classmates at your program? Hello? Another surprise: though I’ve never lived in NYC and have an MFA and have taught in an MFA program, I identified much more strongly with the essays on the NYC side of the book than the MFA side. I like their energy, their sense of industry. Which I’ll talk about in Part II in my next post…
Rattle poems, ComiCons missed, Cover art and Planning for the next book
- At March 29, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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First of all, thanks to Rattle for featuring my poem Horoscope on their “poem of the day” feature today. It’s a super-old poem – published in 2003, probably written a few years before that – and one of the first three poems I ever had published in real, “legitimate” poetry journals (Beloit Poetry Journal and Seattle Review were the other two, and they all sort of came out at the same time.)
Second, I was supposed to read at Emerald City ComiCon for a panel on the Drawn to Marvel anthology today, but I’ve been fighting a bug all the week, and this morning was the morning it decided to really come out and play – I nearly fainted this morning getting ready, running a high fever, so decided to put the kibosh on going (even though it’s a wonderful Con and I really wanted to support the superhero anthology.) The weather has been pretty miserable lately, one of the wettest Marches on record for the Seattle area in general, which is saying something. Nevertheless, we did manage to catch a double rainbow on camera yesterday, so that was amazing! 
Since the giddiness of announcing the next book, The Robot Scientist’s Daughter, a few days ago, the Mayapple editors and I have been busy working and planning, mostly with the cover art. I think we’ve found something beautiful and I’ll be able to share it with you guys soon. The other thing I have to do is the terrifying part: getting blurbs. You’d think with (this makes) four books, I’d have gotten used to asking people, but I haven’t. It still makes me very nervous. And I write a lot of blurbs for other people, and hate to turn people down, so I’ve been on the other side of that question quite a bit too. Now, I’ve got to start planning, culling poems, deciding on formats and other kiddles and bits…but it’s pretty exciting that it’s really happening. There is almost no better time to work on a book than right after it’s been accepted for publication, because you’re really motivated after realizing “hey, other people are going to see this!”
Announcement – The Robot Scientist’s Daughter will be released March 2015 from Mayapple Press
- At March 25, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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OK, so here’s the official announcement I talked about a couple of posts ago: my fourth book, The Robot Scientist’s Daughter, will be published by Mayapple Press in March 2015! Mayapple Press is pretty interesting in that they have published women’s speculative poetry in the past, which is a fairly unusual thing to find! Feminist AND with sci-fi leanings? It’s a pretty cool fit.
I’m excited about it. The editors are great, this is the first time I will have SPD distribution, which is cool. I’m working on getting blurbs but I already have one really nice one I’m excited to share soon, along with some possible cover art ideas!
This book is probably my most personal, as it’s about my father’s work as a contractor for Oak Ridge National Laboratories, my childhood growing up around robots (cool!) and nuclear waste (not quite as cool) and some of the environmental fallout from both Oak Ridge and Fukushima. There are persona poems, but this book is probably my most autobiographical work so far. I remember Ilya Kaminsky, when he read my first book, said “Now you must make your own fairy tales.” I feel like this book is my attempt to do that.
Announcement soon, Flannery O’Connor quotes and writers with illness
- At March 21, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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I will have an announcement to make soon 🙂 Hopefully you will agree with me that it is good news. I am always happiest when there is a flurry of activity around beginning or completing something, I think.
I’ve been reading “Conversations with Flannery O’Connor,” which is now out of print and hard to find, even in libraries and used bookstores, but worth reading. Flannery reminds me a bit of Frida Kahlo in that she puts a bit of herself, her view of herself, into her work – her stories are full of disfigurements and ailments, women who are deaf, women who have wooden legs, people with strange grotesque appearances. Of course, because of her lupus, she herself walked with crutches and it affected her appearance, so she was highly aware of not fitting in, of not being “normal.” Her continual focus on the Southern grotesque is a bit like Frida’s self-portraits – full of her own distorted imagery of her own body. She is imperfect, cantankerous, the language she used sometimes frightening, a Catholic who nonetheless wasn’t impressed with Lourdes except by the germs, by a visit to the Vatican, and who thought most nuns and priests undereducated. (I got a real sense of her personality from her collected letters, easier to find and also worth reading.)
So, her lupus set upon her fairly severely after a trip to the writer’s residency at Yaddo, requiring multiple hospitalizations, experimental drugs, home injections, and later, the crutches. Nevertheless, she didn’t let this affect her work schedule, her work socializing, even. Flannery went and gave readings and taught classes as much as she could, and when she was not quite as able, she hosted writers at her house. (A young writer from Atlanta said of her: “She’s certainly not a hermit, though she’s not an extrovert, either.” Sound familiar?)
Flannery is a bit of a ghost of mine, she haunts me. Flannery was a good writer at a very young age, having a good deal of success in her early twenties, befriending important people, even at that age aware that her work was good and deserved to be treated that way. She turned down a book prize’s publishing contract because they wanted to change her work – that took guts. Despite getting as much treatment for her lupus as the time and technology and her money could allow, she was dead at 39, a year younger than I am now.
Here are a couple of quotes I particularly enjoyed from “Conversations.” Most of them I have never seen before, on the web or anywhere else.
“There has been no interesting or noble struggle,” she said of her life. She lived with her mother and helped raise peacocks and fancy chickens and ducks, which supplemented her income (which increased as she got older) not mostly made up of book royalties but fellowships, awards, and grants. She used a lot of the money on hospital trips. She complained frequently of the low sales of her books, about bad reviews or (what she felt were) ignorant or misguided reviews.
Her advice to new writers? “start reading and writing and looking and listening. Pay less attention to yourself than to what is outside you, and if you must write about yourself, get a good distance away and judge yourself with a stranger’s eyes and a stranger’s severity.” (Probably still good advice, esp. for young college kids.)
Here’s a saucy description of the “average reader.”
Flannery: “The average reader, however, is a good deal below average. People will say with considerable satisfaction, “Oh, I’m an average reader” when the fact is they never learned to read in the first place, and probably never will.”
On “the writer’s temperament:”
“People seem to surround being-a-writer with a kind of false mystique, as if what is required to be a writer is a writer’s temperament. Most of the people I know with writers’ temperaments aren’t doing any writing.” (And remember, she was friends with such famous writing temperaments as Robert Lowell!)
As for her disease, in an interview, she said “the disease is of no consequence to my writing, since for that I use my head and not my feet.”
Signs of Spring, a new Microreview, and More
- At March 15, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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Thought I would remind you that spring is around the corner. I’ve seen it! Pink hyacinths we planted last fall are blooming in a row in front of our house, jonquils in the back, and in downtown Seattle, where it is slightly warmer, I’ve seen the following in bloom: cherry blossoms, camellias, plum blossoms, rhododendrons, redbud, magnolias and crab apple.
Sorry I haven’t been here much, I caught some evil stomach flu at a wonderful reading I went to last Sunday, and I’m hoping to be almost done with it soon! I managed to get out and wobble in the sunshine on Thursday, which is when we got some photos to prove to you and to myself that yes, spring was on the way.
And to show that I haven’t been completely slacking off, here’s my microreview from Rattle of Evan J. Peterson’s The Midnight Channel, a chapbook on final girls and horror tropes.
And I was very happy with a poem acceptance from Mid-American Review, which, growing up in Cincinnati, was one of the few literary magazines that showed up in local bookstores. Hooray for the Midwest! After AWP, I also got the emotional energy to actually send out work again, which I hadn’t really done since last November, so that was good. I hadn’t realized what I had been feeling was discouragement – maybe just low-level, but enough to keep me from writing much or sending out much – until after AWP and I felt a surge of desire to do both again. It’s a good thing about these kinds of conferences, going out and looking at physical journals and talking to actual humans who work at journals and publishers, reminding you there are real people out there, not just a nameless, faceless rejection machine, as it sometimes seems.
A lot of my friends have mentioned being physically or emotionally down lately. Could be the time-change, or the stars, or just bad luck, but I know I was feeling kind of disgruntled over the whole “broken arm three weeks before AWP, pneumonia two weeks before AWP, head cold/stomach flu after AWP…” Seemed like a lot, but some of my friends are going through even worse health crises. How to have the faith or grace to push through? I read Conversations with Flannery O’Connor, who said something like “good thing I write with my head and not my feet” when asked if being on crutches for her severe lupus affected her work. We can’t get caught up in politics (The VIDA count still seemed sort of depressing to me, although I guess there’s been some improvements, the NYC versus MFA debate which mostly seemed like a resounding “it’s hard to make a living as a writer either way” answer) either. Sometimes we just have to put our heads down, read what inspires us, spend time writing and then sending your work out into the world. Something about spring, about rebirth and flowering in the face of cold and ice and mud.
The Unreal Issue, How Not to Hate Your Friends, and Two Friendly Announcements
- At March 08, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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It seems fitting that while floating through my post-AWP-cold-induced haze, Poemeleon’s Unreal Issue debuted. I have a couple of poems in there, one about post-apocalypse and one about consulting a medical intuitive, which I believe is one of the signs of apocalypse. It’s a great issue over all. I really like editor Cati Porter’s editorial vision.
And, in case you were in a haze of your own, in a perhaps post-AWP-induced jealousy haze (it happens), check out this excellent article on how not to hate your friends by Courtney Maum. It’s kind of funny, but also kind of true that in the writing world, that you need to you make sure you only make friends not with people you secretly hate, but with people who are good for you and whom you can genuinely encourage and be proud of.
And speaking of those kinds of friends…be sure to tune into ABC tomorrow 8 PM to watch the debut of the show based on Jason Mott’s The Returned, called Resurrection. And if you’re in Seattle, try to make it to Open Books to catch Martha Silano’s reading at 3 PM for her new book, Reckless Lovely. (Two friends I am very proud of, and whom I don’t hate at all.)
It’s International Women’s Day, so remember to tell someone you appreciate them, buy a piece of art by your favorite female artist, sign up for a subscription to a magazine run by and for women, or donate to a local women’s shelter (the closest one to our neighborhood is I think this one) or international aid charity for women (I like Heifer International.)
Afterburn – Reflections on AWP 2004-2014 (and a few more pics)
- At March 04, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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I’m recovering from a head cold I picked up at AWP, eating from a bowl of grilled watermelon salsa my husband made to help kill the cold, ruminating about the good and the bad about these kinds of conferences. I have to admit that this year’s AWP was probably my favorite since my first one – when I was still starry eyed and naive, interviewing for jobs, in a Chicago hotel four blocks from the conference, carrying a way-too-heavy bag through panels and the book fair, gawking at the crowds of (gasp) 4,000. (That was a record back then. That’s right, my first AWP was a decade ago!)
I wanted to say something about the hard workers in the poetry world who don’t necessarily get the credit they deserve. They do a lot – they review books, or set up web sites, or edit. People like Brian Spears, the Rumpus’ poetry editor, and Denise Hill, who runs New Pages. Editors of micropresses like Shanna Compton and Kristy Bowen. AWP board members and volunteers. They are a lot of typically really nice people who tend to stay out of the limelight – and hey, they put their own (inimitable) work on hold to shine the light on others. And they all deserve cupcakes.
- Oliver de la Paz, me, and Carolyne Wright
- me with Brian Spears
- me with Denise Hill
An unusual aspect of this AWP was that it was in my hometown of Seattle, so. I saw a lot of my friends out doing their thing, being successful writers and editors and such. I mean, you realize, hey, my friends are pretty impressive, really! And you can sleep in your own bed and you know where the good restaurants are already. You don’t have to ship anything home. I recommend it. And I got to see the hard-working Northwest presses – like Two Sylvias, Concrete Wolf, Minor Arcana Press – get a little bit of glow from being in the limelight. Which they deserve. The Northwest is a pretty happening place for literary stuff, in case you didn’t know. MFA versus NYC? I don’t think so. Think LA, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland – all happen to be great hospitable homes for writers. (I happen to think San Diego is pretty great for writers too – it’s where I met Jericho Brown, got to hang out with Steve Kowit, Ilya Kaminsky and Sandra Alcosser, and got drunk-serenaded by Billy Collins. I mean, it’s no slouch.) Anyway, hooray for AWP being here and in LA in two years! Finally, the West Coast is getting some writerly love.
And then something about running into writers you admire. Now, a decade since my first AWP, I may not be quite as starry-eyed, but I’m still thrilled to run into people whose work I love. I used to be too nervous to introduce myself, now I just do it. I used to worry about impressing editors and publishers. I guess I worry a little less about that now than I used to, but it is nice to see the kids (is that bad to say? They all seem so young now! But so intimidating when I went to my first AWP!) who are running the lit mags, working the tables. All these people who love the same weird stuff you do. This year, I totally missed anything negative – gossip, rudeness, one-ups-man-ship – and saw only a bunch of people with whom I share a passion. At the Thursday night reading I literally teared up, I was so happy to be with a bunch of people who loved “geeky” poetry and who excelled at it. Because that’s what AWP really should be about – getting out of your safe-writer-introvert-shell and meeting other introvert-shell-hiders with whom you have an awfully lot in common. And maybe get a drink together and talk shop, or talk about which childhood cartoons you miss, or whatever. Talk about the dreams you have in common, go out and fill the sky with hope and good wishes. When else are you going to do this?
- Lana Ayers, Marge Manwaring, me, Kelli Russell Agodon and Michael Schmeltzer
- Dana Levin, Joannie Stangeland
- Juliana Gray and Marie Gauthier
- Aimee Nezhukumatathil and Kelli Russell Agodon
AWP 14 Report – Friday and Saturday, Drawn to Marvel, the haul, and other adventures
- At March 02, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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Friday and Saturday Reports from AWP, the haul, and other adventures
The last day of AWP was fun, though it went by in a blur. I did a quick book signing at Minor Arcana. I didn’t get to see half the people I had planned to have coffee with, although I did run into a lot of great folks. I never found the tables for several of my favorite journals and publishers (the book fair was split into two football-field sized halls, and I swear I tried), but everyone at the tables the last day was friendly and chatty the last day as I went around buying and picking up books and lit mags. I wore sequins to keep myself awake! I ran into friends local and far-flung. And a very cute black Pomeranian whose owner let us cuddle him (the dog not the owner.)
- me and Martha Silano
- me and Shanna Compton
- me and Rigoberto Gonzalez
- me with Evan Peterson and Bryan Dietrich at the Minor Arcana table
- puppy
The evening Drawn to Marvel launch event at Raygun Lounge was terrific, I kept hearing people saying “This was the best event at AWP” and “why doesn’t AWP have this kind of thing with their official panels and readings?” Yes, why indeed??? It was a great night to meet people I had been corresponding with for years and lots of new folks – including Tara Betts, whose poetry I knew so well I could have sworn I had met her before! I know they’ll have the complete video of the reading up at some point, but Glenn did a phone recording of my reading of “Female Comic Book Superheroes” if you’re interested – http://youtu.be/Wu5j7BjnorU. There are sequins and a Dalek involved. I would say, after briefly scanning the anthology, it would be a wonderful book to teach to college kids.
- me with Jason McCall
- me with the inimitable Stephen Burt and Evan J. Peterson
- me with contributors Tara Betts, Lisa Cheby, and Angela Howe Decker
Friday after my book-signing at Two Sylvias I took some friends to Open Books and Café Zoka to get real Seattle coffee, and it was great to hang out outside AWP (I recommend an offsite trip with a local every AWP!)
- John and Christine from Open Books, me, Marie Gauthier and Juliana Gray
- Morning after pick- the big haul from #AWP14
Above is also a little pic of some of my haul from AWP, including friends’ new books and lit mags. I parted with probably a grand total of $85 for all this, which I think is pretty great indeed. I’m looking forward to reading everything when I have sanity and sleep again.
Wednesday/Thursday report at AWP – Speculative Poets and Old Friends
- At February 28, 2014
- By Jeannine Gailey
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A quick report from the first 24 hours of AWP with a few pics: I have to say, so far this AWP I am feeling nothing but admiration and happiness to keep running into, reading with, and hanging out with so many fantastic writers. The best part of this kind of conference is running into old friends, and what’s odd nowadays is that some of these “old friends” are folks I’ve never physically met – sure, we’ve been Skyping or commenting on each other’s blogs for years, but it’s great to really give someone a hug or thank them in person for blurbing your book (or teaching it,) listening to them read poetry for the first time, grabbing dinner together, or even just saying hi on our ways to and from things. I’m exhausted already but at the same time can’t wait to get back to seeing more lovely folks! Today I’ll be signing books at the Two Sylvias book table, right next to Tupelo at the book fair, from 1 PM – 2 PM. Come by! Tomorrow I’ll be signing 1 PM-2:30 PM at the Minor Arcana Press, and reading at the Ray Gun Lounge as part of the Drawn to Marvel book launch with a bunch of terrific poets, starting at 7 PM.
Last night’s Superheroes of Poetry reading was one of those magic offsite readings that went perfectly – everyone kept to their time, read fantastic poetry, and read it really well. I was so happy to be among poets I really liked, the crowd was really sweet, and Glenn said it was the first time I got emotional at a poetry reading in a long time. Because we held the reading at Jack Straw, they also had a professional sound engineer give each reader a CD of their reading – cool, right?
- Evan Peterson, Bryan D. Dietrich, Jeannine Hall Gailey, Lana Ayers
- Jeannine Hall Gailey, Kelly Davio, Peter Davio, Lesley Wheeler
- Jason McCall reading
- Lana Ayers, Jeannine Hall Gailey, Lesley Wheeler, Sally Rosen Kindred, and Molly Spencer
We also have the reading up on YouTube, so check it out when you get a chance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeT3iv4DjVM&feature=youtu.be&t=1m48s
Before that, I took a brief tour of the South Hall of the book fair (didn’t realize Wednesday there were actually two gigantic halls of book fair instead of just one) and ran into a bunch of friends, including San Diego poet Jeff Walt. Wednesday I thought I was just going to register, but I ended up meeting and talking with lots of friends who were setting up their booths. Publishers really do work hard at these conferences, and much of it is a labor of love rather than spectacular pay, so be sure to stop by and tell folks how much you love their efforts. I didn’t remember to 1. take enough pictures or 2. hand out enough business cards (possibly because being sort of one-good-armed for the conference makes this a teensy bit hard.)
- Jeannine in scarf-sling and Jeff Walt at book fair

Jeannine Hall Gailey served as the second Poet Laureate of Redmond, Washington and the author of Becoming the Villainess, She Returns to the Floating World, Unexplained Fevers, The Robot Scientist’s Daughter, and winner of the Moon City Press Book Prize and SFPA’s Elgin Award, Field Guide to the End of the World. Her latest, Flare, Corona from BOA Editions, was a finalist for the Washington State Book Award. She’s also the author of PR for Poets, a Guidebook to Publicity and Marketing. Her work has been featured on NPR’s The Writer’s Almanac, Verse Daily and The Year’s Best Fantasy and Horror. Her poems have appeared in The American Poetry Review, Poetry, and JAMA.


